*UPDATE 12*
11 pm Friday night - 8 Aug 97 - ALERT! I HAVE BEEN TOTALY CRASHED !!!!! The software on my computer was so infected by an aids-ebola like virus that I had to completely WIPE my hard drives to get back control. Poly-morphic, systemic, all-encompasing meltdown! I thought I might just delete the infected files by date (I suspected an alarm program and took steps against it. Little use against a macro-phage like this!).
Mucho-many files re-written such as command.com, (ESPECIALLY command.pif) command.pif, io.sys, my mouse driver, ALL the .grp files, winsock has evidence of many re-writes, the program manager, my mail programs, even such inane programs as Paint, Word Perfect, and Acrobat reader! I'm IMPRESSED !!!! (and rather piSSed as well !!!!).
When I tried to just "move" a couple of files out of the path, (for later re-install if my fears were unfounded), The hard drives growled at me a lot and then it took me 20 hours to get control enough to transfer vital files before the inevitable, brain dead and rebuild. I tried to save the infected files for later examination by experts, the demon programs even wiped the saved information (Explore infected as well).
The damn invasion went so far as to block my CD-rom so I couldn't re-install WIN95, and the mouse was a traitor as well! I counted over 35 files "created and modified" on a date inconsistant with manufacturing and installation dates.
THIS IS A SOPHISTICATED ATTACK! (as opposed to thoughtful and true reasoning for those that know the difference), and should be treated with respect if not fear.
I sent information out to others that had reported the same symptoms (about a week of "crashy fever", then everything seems normal after the "crashy fever" then your "normal" computer is a faithful "fifth columnist" passing information on the net without you being the wiser!).
I'm impressed and appalled at the same time. JUST ASK ME! I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW! (Of course other than what others have asked me to keep in confidence, you can understand THAT, can't you?) My life is open now, nothing to hide, and if you're embarassed, then turn away, that's your choice!
I'm still rebuilding, my screen is ugly, my preferences are nil, my shortcuts don't exist anymore (other than in memory mine, not my baby's!) Irq's clash, nobody's talking to one another, I've lost a month of cherished letters, and every picture, java script, animation, or "active content" I used to enjoy on the net is GONE. PERIOD.
FORK YOU WHOEVER YOU ARE!!!! You WILL get YOURS! ! ! ! ! (all three tines for sure!)
Check the created on and modified on dates in your own files, although I've watched "them" change the ones I noticed and commented on, on the net, "they" couldn't get to all of them in time while I was off line, and the modified files that were replaced by "unknown" and obviously homogenous dates later, the discrepencies do add up to blatent and focused tampering. A word to the wise!
I will be off line for a while building a defense. Letters to me will moulder a while before I can answer them in confidence. I'm VERY sorry for the defensive and recalcitrant behavior I will now exhibit. That's life after a major burning. 12 midnight 8/9/97 DC
You'll now be returned to your regularly scheduled programming.
V1.20 Updated 3 August 1997
Sunday in Oregon, I have a spot of time now to get out another update, not much to report I'm afraid, things have slowed down in the breakthroughs department, and it seems as though the universe is saying to me "slow down, don't be in such a hurry", and to review and reflect on just what I'm doing.
Sam Smith ran into a planned event time deadline, traveling to Pennsilvania (some kind of re-enactment gig), and didn't get to finish "Bowling Ball Bertha" before he had to go live in another world for a month, Darn!!! It will be September before he gets back into this century again, so any mail to him will be a while in it's return.
I'm having some second thoughts about the full contact friction drive model of the GIT, and will be making another prototype that will test both the full contact version as well as a more robust and much higher velocity free orbital version (modification of the same parts), the one that has proven out with both my, and James Hurl's experiments, to see the difference between the two types.
I've had the money to purchace the casting resin and several plastic funnels needed for making double conic orbitals, and a darned expensive long arm lever switch to energize coils in a mechanically timed fashion (passing orbital trip and release) for my first attempt at an electromagnetic motor means for the GIT.
We have one of those small town carnival type whoop de doo's in town at the moment (Homer Davenport Days) and I avoid the place when all those tourists are driving the wrong way on our one way streets. Come monday It'll be safer for me to get some iron dust from our local small Iron foundry, and I can start the process of casting magnetically attractive orbitals. I'll keep you informed, but it's likely to take me a couple of weeks to get it operating, as I need to do the "normal" stuff in the meantime.
With the orbitals cast, I can cut several races out of plywood to try differing race sizes and ratio settings without too much trouble, and perhaps I can get one going fast enough (develop enough thrust) to convince even the most ardent of skeptics!
Of course the folks I most need to convince won't believe me until they have one in their hands to test for themselves, given the ability to fake pictures and video these days, and having had contact with a NASA scientist (that was kind enough to even respond to my "crazy" ideas), he assured me that I'd pretty much need to fly in and give him a ride before he'd be convinced that Newton isn't God. Oh well! More work on the physical is in order, and less time spent in shouting at the deaf ones!
A VERY kind gentleman sent me a book on the work of inventor Robert Cook, someone I hadn't heard of until mail started coming in, and he said he had worked with Mr. Cook about 5 years ago. He had signed a non-disclosure agreement, and wouldn't tell me about the latest inertial propulsion version Mr. Cook had produced to his knowlege (I REALLY respect that!), but did send me publically released info in the form of a book called "The Death of Rocketry" by Joel Dickinson with Robert Cook.
It's a well written account of inertial propulsion in general, an easy read for us less technical types, and an account of the absurd trials and tribulations of a man with a proven "impossible" device, and the enormous resistance he has been met with in the scientific community. And I thought I had problems!
I haven't verified the address, but the book might be found from CIP Systems Inc. P.O. Box 2997, San Rafael, Ca. 94901 (CIP=Cook Inertial Propulsion). If any out there know if it's still a valid address (or not) please let me know so I can make corrections.
You may wonder why I'm willing to help promote one who may be a competitor in the field of inertial propulsion, and all I can say is that ALL of us in this field need to work together to get this concept into reality, and frankly, I think the GIT is just about the most efficient device of this type in the world at the moment anyway, and don't fear competition in the least! . (-;
Outgoing files went over 50 thousand this morning, and the site seems to be settling into a pattern of about a thousand files requested per day. I've added a few more explorers to the networking page, and a few more links are on the way.
One will be for a man that came into possession of a lot of Space Shuttle tiles, the sales of which he will donate to the Space Camp for Kids, and is still ironing out his web site, seems he WAY overpaid a service provider to generate a home page for him on a GUI html authoring program, and it's useless as far as the search engines are concerned (META Tags), so a bit more work needs to be done on his site to get a completely working web presentation. If you are good at html and would like to assist his endeavor, get in touch with him (mail link on his name below) and help Michael (and the Space Camp for Kids) out!
It will be the first commercial link I've considered adding to my site, since it's for a good cause, and I feel a bit guilty for turning the Shuttle into yesterday's technology (but not TOO guilty.......{grin}!!!).
Michael Noble, one of my networking volunteers is starting the "Space Shuttle Tile Company" at 1608 West Campbell Avenue, Suite 239 in Campbell, Ca. 95129
Michael's Shuttle Tile web site (such as it is at the moment), will give you a look into this budding philanthropic business, and a chance to get a chunk of history that will no longer be blowing up our astronauts if I've got anything to say about it! When I checked last, I couldn't find a price, and the mail link bounced back as an unknown, so use the above email address to reach him until he gets the bugs in his site ironed out.
Lawrence Ellul has a rather cool site that is giving away animated gifs that I've used (am still using) on my site. The animated gifs are often a lot more popular than my own creations (grumble!), so in respect for his service (and small enough payment for my own use of his works), I will include his Webmaster's Animated GIFs site in my links page when I can complete a full review.
It seems there are some technical difficulties at the time of this writing, as many of the linked gifs were not available on the geocities server, and I've informed him of the problems. He should have it ironed out soon, and you can go to his site to get those rather cool additions for your web site from him, (and collect from my site the "important" stuff!).
The list of "big boy" companies is really growing, just about every aerospace and satellite manufacturer I've ever heard of (and several I haven't) is now pulling files, every cpu manufacturer I know of is also in there, two HUGE international finance institutions pulled files (somethings up!), a large number of electronic controls firms, and a lot of medical giants as well (I have no idea why!).
One big oil company took nearly the whole site (worries mate!), and in general, a VERY large number of unidentifiables are taking files, if anyone out there can tell me how to trace back the numeric domains (they don't answer when I come knocking on their web front door), I would be MOST appreciative for another information tool!
Oh, I did get one more negative letter from Canada (out of scores and scores of pats on the back), but it was sent anonymously (chicken guanoid!), so I had no opportunity to find out the guy's problem. Perhaps he ran an experiment that failed, though I doubt it from the tone of the letter, it showed pure reactionary emotionalism with very little thought whatsoever. Oh well! I knew the job was dangerous when I took it!
I do have a request in the mail to reprint the NASA researcher's letter to me, and if he gives me the OK, I will tack it on below here, or have it in the next update if it takes that long (if at all).
Stay tuned! It will only get better as more research continues!
DavidC - 2:20 pm Sunday 3 August 1997
6 pm Monday 4 August, 1997
I've received permission to reprint a letter from Bill Wheaton at Cal Tech, who has been involved with NASA at the JPL labs recently, I'm not sure in what capacity so I won't speculate.
I will paste his letter to my prodding inspired by an article he had submitted to a BBS I recently looked into. The "Copies To" field will be removed, as I have not had contact return yet from the cc'd individual, and my policy is not to print the names of those individuals without permission.
Although doubting, he was thoughtfully kind enough to respond, something that seems to be rather rare these days, and his well reasoned thoughts speak to the difficulty I'm only beginning to appreciate involving inertial propulsion. My reply is directly below, and under that an interesting gremlin event I became aware of today.
Dear Dave,
I've looked at your pages some, and I am convinced it will not work. Of
course I could be wrong, and I would be delighted if it turns out that I am,
but I see nothing that makes me hope.
It seems to me that to prove it works, you are going to have to do a
demonstration so clear and compelling that any competent witness will be
overwhelmingly motivated to understand it, even if it takes a month of hard
mental labor.
The demo that you report from Australia is not convincing (to me) because of
the interaction with the floor, which can exert sideways forces. To really
believe for sure I'd have to actually witness it in person, because photo-
graphy and video can be faked too easily nowadays. I do *not* mean to accuse
you of any such thing, I hasten to add, but to be really 99.99% confident in
my own mind, such that I would be willing to carry the torch for your
invention, that would be necessary.
An obvious demonstration would be to make one that can actually fly. People
did not believe in airplanes in 1905, based on reports of the Wright's
achievement, until they saw the things fly overhead. Then they said "WOW!!".
It kind of needs to be like that!
An easier demo would be one that hangs from a long vertical cable. If you
can get it to hang _steadily_ (no penduluming more than a little) at a
_substantial_angle_ to the vertical, say 20 or 30 degrees, with no connection
to the outside world except through the flexible support from above, I think
I would find that impressive, at least if I were physically present. It
would be necessary that there be no strong wind, like the backwash from a
propeller--to the side. Put it all in a sealed box. that would be best, and
run it on a storage battery.
A floating demo would be another possibility, except that you would need to
make it very very obvious that there was no possible water jet or other
sideways interaction with the water. A smooth seamless container around a
boat-like device might work well. If you could make it fit into a trash can,
float upright, with no break in the can, and move at flank speed across a
swimming pool or lake, that would be impressive. Let the skeptic provide his
own standard trash can, of a given size; you slip your machine into it, drop
it into the water, and off it goes.
Both of these suggestions are much easier than a flier, because there is no
need for flight stability or elaborate control. Also, it does not have to be
powerful enough to lift its own weight. It seems to me that if you have a
truly useful device, it should be easy to do one of these. I think, based on
what I believe are fundamental physical principles, that you are going to
find that you really can't get it to work.
The fundamental principles underlying Newton's Third Law, which is equivalent
to the law of conservation of momentum, are compelling. In both classical
and quantum mechanics, it goes back to there being no preferred location in
space. If I do an experiment at some location X (in one dimension), then if
I move everything, apparatus, laboratory, etc, to a different position X', it
should make no difference--the result should come out the same. That is, the
laws of physics are invariant under a translation of co-ordinates. Conserva-
tion of momentum, and Newton's Third Law, result directly from this
"invariance". There is a theorem, due to a famous character, a cigar-smoking
lady mathematician of the 1920's, Emmy Noether, that every invariance
generates a conservation law, and vice versa (? if I recall; this is pushing
my limits). Conservation of angular momentum corresponds to the indifference
of physics to orientation in space, conservation of energy to invariance
under time translation, conservation of charge to "gauge invariance", and so on.
This is all graduate school, or at least advanced undergraduate, physics, and
it's kind of a lot for a non-physicist to get through. It probably sounds
like some mathematical gobbledygook, a snow job, and I am sorry if it does,
because my intention is not to intimidate you at all, just to make you
understand that we really seem to have good reason to believe that your
device cannot work as claimed, so you will appreciate what you are up
against: not only human inertia, but something that feels like the writing
of God. Of course, being fallible human beings, it's always conceivable that
there is some deep trick that just short-circuits the theorem, just goes out
into territory it was never meant to cover--but your device does not seem
like that at all. It just seems like a clever complicated mechanical gizmo,
and the theorem assures us that no amount of clever complexity is going to
break the law.
Your web page discussion suggests to me that you may be suffering from some
confusion, especially about the difference between energy and momentum; and
also about rotational and translational quantities, eg, linear momentum
versus angular momentum. This is all very interesting, and is covered pretty
well in standard first-semester mechanics. I believe the tools to show that
your device will not work are available just at that level, even though a
complicated analysis (parallel to the complexity of your design) may be
required. Anyway, I would encourage you to undertake that, as it does not
require the bigger investment in theory needed for an understanding of
Noether's Theorem. If your device does actually work, however, then we are
all going to have to go back and understand in detail why Noether's theorem
either does not apply or has some overlooked loophole. The implications for
physics would likely be quite profound.
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{DC} See 7th update on my site, James Bolstad's observation on Newton's third
"law". He states rather clearly the "loophole" I'm dancing through in this
question!
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Sorry I can't be more positive, but I hope this helps.
Very truly yours,
Bill Wheaton
Thanks for looking into the GIT, and your intelligent and thoughtful (and
kind) reply!
Fully aware of Newton's laws, and having them so firmly ground into me as
a student that it took me eleven years to continue with experiments that
flew in the face of the Church of Newton (let's all prey!). I KNOW the
difficulty you are having with the concept!
One of my readers stated (reprinted in my 7th update) that Newton's third
postulate was derived by observing planets, and as such the elements of the
bodies in question were in a fixed (solid) relationship to one another, and
not intended to cover bodies whose parts have acceleratory relationships
internally (and also with the universe).
I know for a fact that I've got a strong current to "swim" against, and
have only recently become aware of the struggles of other inventors in the
field of inertial propulsion. Specifically the inventor Robert Cook, who
did (and is still doing) all of the suggested tests succussfully (other
than fly, as his design would blow apart at the velocities needed to do
such an heretical thing!), and still has no support!
Lucky for me, the GIT is so elegantly simple that it can be produced
without an entire machine shop, and is a design efficient enough to be able
to actually fly. The smooth translation from circumferal acceleration into
spin (and back again) on the orbitals provides for a device that will be
able to generate useful thrust by cranking up the orbits per minute enough
to take a weak effect and magnify it by the square laws into useable thrust
without destroying the device in vibrational disintigration.
I originally began the GIT project naively believing I had discovered a
new principle and that public exposure would get across the simple beauty
of the device to interested individuals. Of course that didn't happen
<grin>, but I have come to appreciate that others have also attempted the
sacrilege and have succeeded in the principle, only to be excommunicated
for their efforts. Sighhhhh...............If it floats it's a witch!
So it's back to the kitchen to brew up another GIT (boil bubble toil and
trouble!), this one capable of a magnified effect (much more so than the
weak proof of concept model) to give a creditable showing of the propulsive
reality, and even then knowing I will be doubted until I can land one, pick
you up and give you a ride! That of course will take some doing, as my
funds are VERY limited, and obtaining sponsors will be a slow and hazardous
progress to be accomplished if this thing is ever to get us into space from
our own back yards.
I have purchaced the casting resin, funnels (for molds), and Monday I will
be going to our local mom and pop (and sons) iron foundry to get the iron
dust to make magnetically soft, hollow double conic orbitals, a variant
that can achieve much higher front to back "gear" ratios than can the
spherical orbital version. The race will be plywood, not the best for
flying with, but sturdy enough to contain the orbitals at velocities needed
to achieve the pendulum and water tests.
I'd like to have the opportunity to send you a small working model in the
future for your own tests if you'ld allow me that opening when I can afford
it.
I will take the opportunity to send a copy to the man listed in the cc
field, ---EDITED NAME WAS HERE----------, just because you sent a copy of
our letter to him, and frankly, any contact that can help further the GIT
project is GREATLY appreciated and respected.
The world IS round, and I haven't fallen of the edge (yet)!
With love and respect - David E. Cowlishaw - 2 August 1997
PS: May I reprint your letter (and my response) on my website? It has the
elements of a good history, thoughtful and realistic reasoning, and
frankly, good merit on the question of inertial propulsion in general.
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I'd like to REALLY thank Bill for allowing me to reprint the above exchange, and although I have been in communication with a LOT of people (about 98% supportive) I've chosen not to reprint most of the pats on the back and solid support I've been receiving involving the GIT, since it would over-run my limit on the web server, and not address the really tough nut to crack, the SHOW ME crowd that will look for years for the wires or magnets rather than the truth. (Gotta be one of them there invisible stealth helicopters with those new buckytube invisible wires makin' it fly! I KNOW it's a FRAUD and you can't tell me differnt!)
Now THIS is an interesting letter! I've removed the personalities and identifying particulars, as I believe the communication I recieved from one of the BIG BOY companies was a total fluke, and trying to get permission to reprint the identifying info would be REALLY pushing it!
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"Hi Webmaster!
I'm an Oregon inventor who has released his new aerospace propulsion
device to the world and I'm just checkin' up on all the folks looking into
the site.
While LMnopqrs Tuvwxy proper has also looked into the site several times,
it's nice to know that along with all the "other guys" in the aerospace and
satelite biz, you folks are also probably at this very moment making one of
my Gyroscopic Inertial Thrusters, a fine "reactionless" (a misnomer)
propulsion device.
I know you haven't looked into it, most likely the fun guys at R&D are the
ones pulling my files at:
http://www.open.org/davidc/UFODrive.htm
Check it out when you get a chance (the whole world is, including the
competition). If you have a way to shoot this over to the R&D folks,
letting them know I'm available for any and all questions involving my
invention, I'd be grateful!
Checking up on all the HUGE companies that like my GIT - DavidC - 27 July
1997"
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Immediately following your text began about 2 pages of text notes regarding
our internal company activities....it started with "Cdefg Pqrst will be
presenting...." and ended with a signoff from one of our employees named
Jkl Hijklmno"
Was this extra text actually part of your original message? And if so, how
and why was it placed there?
If not, we may need to track down an issue with our e-mail system.
Thanks for your help!!
Jkl Fghij
Stuvwxy (a LMnopqrs Tuvwxy Company)
person@mailthing.stuvwxy.lmnopqrs.com
Phone number here WOW!{DC}
The gremlins are back! I've found files that have been created and modified recently, specifically the DOS underpinnings of the WIN95 operating system I'm running, and though I finally found sysedit to try to scrub a sudden appearance of dblspace.exe (I don't run compression software, it isn't needed with the HUGE disk space I bought on my custom built computer), and come to think of it, drive space should be the version running, as double space is old software, not the latest on OEM WIN95 new computer installs.
Since compression software has to reside in memory to intercept all disk to memory calls, it's a PERFECT place to stick a computer bug! Unfortunately, dblspace isn't in any sysedit listing, so I suspect the msdos.sys file that was created, then modified an hour later on June 13th 1997 to be the culprit, loading the offending compressor outside of my initiation files.
If there are any computer literate folks out there that would like to take a look at the offending programs (virus research) let me know, I'll mail you a copy if you'll let me know what it does.
Now I can't run defrag past 8% of the run, an effect that started today. I REALLY don't want to do a complete wipe and rebuild! HELP!
As I said earlier, not much happening on the GIT front in the last period, but some REALLY interestin' communication stuff goin' on here!
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